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Post by Scott Carson Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:00 am

OOC: We can at least discuss things.

Gelar spoke up again. "Gentlemen, I believe a well organized meeting is key to accomplishing our tasks efficiently. Before we move on, does someone have an agenda of what needs to be covered?"
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Post by Central Texas Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:19 am

"We need to finish up the discussion on human rights. Then we have to cover the GA and it's powers. Then the DC. Finally the world court of justice. And then some more provisions, such as amending the charter. Now let's continue with human rights. Now some of you may be thinking that is too far of the NOTW. But bear this in mind. If a country doesn't provide these rights. It is just a few sanctions. To push the country in the right direction. Now is that really all too reaching."
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Post by David Boose Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:16 am

Delegate Danforth stood, "I belive it was stated in the earlier discussion of this topic that it is the position of the Confederate State of Missouri that rather than establish a specific enumeration of rights this organization should seek to prevent crimes against hummanity. This would be defined as the intentional, systematic , oppression of a particular group of people by a government, or government like entity. This would prohibit oppression on the basis of religion or ethnicity for certain but would not prohibit such things as state religions or royal families."
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:21 am

"It is the position of Central Texas that breaking the basic rights of a person by a nation. Can constitute something of a crime against humanity. So we need to make sure this organization strives to better and free the lives of all humanity."
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Post by David Boose Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:34 am

In response Danforth answered, "But sir, being delibrately vague achieves nothing but leave this document open to egreagous interpretation by courts or make it completely unenforceable. Therefore, in order to settle this most basic of matters, the Confederate State of Missouri moves to bring to the floor a vote on whether we shall establish a bill of rights or simply seek to abolish crimes against humanity as defined by current international law. Do I have second?"
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:38 am

"I second the vote"
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Post by David Boose Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:44 am

"The motion has been made and seconded, would each nation please state it's preferance."
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:46 am

"Central Texas wishes to see a bill of rights. That is very clear on what the right is about. And the limits of the national government may go against this right."
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Post by Brighton Kensington Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:37 am

Princess Diana calls in from the family jet flying to New York. "I vote for a bill if rights that include crimes against humanity. If that isn't possible than I abstain my vote."
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Post by David Boose Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:44 am

ooc: A proper bill of rights would prohibit crimes against humanity

Take a look at this

http://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/ccpr.aspx
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Post by Brighton Kensington Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:59 am

*Princess Diana has arrived*
OOC: Any specific part I need to look at?
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Post by Scott Carson Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:47 pm

Gelar stood up. "The UCR would prefer a Bill of Rights, but we wish for this Bill to be limited to simply the crimes currently prohibited by international law."
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:11 pm

OOC: Currently there really isn't known international law which states the crimes. That is well mentioned in RP. And then we would have to create such a thing. And then that would take more approval. So let us just make the rights on our own.
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Post by David Boose Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:32 pm

The Confederate State of Missouri will also agree to a bill of rights detailing essential human rights we should all be able to agree on.

To begin the Confederate State of Missouri would like to propose the following

1. Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.
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Post by Chairman Brander Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:36 pm

I am hesitant of a bill of rights, how bout a "global policy"
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:39 pm

"Central Texas is against the current wording of this right. As it stands, it could be interpreted as meaning the death penalty isn't allowed. And currently CT has Death as punishment for certain crimes. So this would violate sovereignty in a way. So I suggest we find a way to reword it."
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Post by Chairman Brander Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:40 pm

Ooc: for meeting such as these we could always go Jin the chat and copy and past the meeting into the forum
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Post by Brighton Kensington Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:41 pm

"Galatians agrees with Central Texas."
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:43 pm

OOC: I agree with ya brander. But this is to showcase the way of RP in government. And if we were to do it on the chat someone would speak OOC without telling. Then we copy and paste it...it just becomes a big mess.
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Post by Chairman Brander Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:49 pm

The representative for the AU looking over mass amount of papers takes off his glasses and looks out onto the floor.

" Why not make a few simple laws that are vague and allow the councils to make decisions?"
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:50 pm

"It is better to make thing clear. And absolute. Which is why we are putting them in the charter. This is to make sure a person is abused by their country because of some absurd loophole."
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Post by Chairman Brander Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:52 pm

I think we need to figure out who votes that these "rights or laws"are official
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:52 pm

"I believe that should be the World Court of Justice's job."
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Post by Brighton Kensington Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:53 pm

OOC: oh no
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Post by Central Texas Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:56 pm

OOC: Don't worry you still have two other guys to help you Razz
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